Ok I'm at a loss of what to do. What do you do next for disaplin of a chiled when nothing else apears to be working. I mean once you have gone through the spell of yelling at them till you are praticaly blue in the face, swatting there asses untill it is your hand that is sore not there asses, and grounding them till hell has frozen over and non of it works to get the point through what do you do next for disaplin? Any and all opinions and sugestions would be nice. Hell have any one else been to this point or is it just me?