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Evolution of KINDS

Well considering that religious people did to "macro" evolution what they did to GOD, by defining it in a billion different ways, i would have to ask for your definition of macro evolution before i can show you the evidence...

You guys define Macro Evolution as a fish turning into a dinosaur.. and that's not what evolution says

So define Macro Evolution, and i will help you to understand how it makes sense...

if you cannot, then you are either PARROTING what you looked up on anti-evolutionist webpages, which is basically like googling "why mud isn't dirt" and showing the "evidence" for why it isn't dirt anymore..

Or you could actually look at what the evolutionists who developed the theory define it as

Religious people have a bad habit of taking what evolutionists say and REDEFINING WORDS that they used and saying that it doesn't make sense any more because of those words...

But when it allllll comes down do it, KINDS and SPECIES and FAMILIES and GENUS and PHYLUMS and KINGDOMS are all just manmade categories of similarities, in order for something to be an ANIMAL, it has these characteristics... GENES don't say OH SHIT, HUMANS MADE A BOUNDARY THAT WE CANT CROSS, they do what is necessary for them to survive as a group, regardless of whether humans are there to understand it or not..

So transforming between a plant to an animal isn't crossing a NATURAL boundary, it's crossing a MANMADE boundary...

There is no reason for something to not acquire a new transformation on a single-gene level, if you can show that two different organisms are just a couple genes away,  the man-made boundary between them is pointless to acknowledge, it's basically being taken out of context..  There is very little between a dog and a cat when it comes to the earliest forms of both.. When a dog and cat both split from the same animal, all we are saying is that if we trace dogs back and back and back and back for as far as we can go, it has the same ancestor as the cat does when you trace it back as far as it goes... reversing time places those two as the same animal..

You can't actually deny this logically except for saying NUH UHHHHH GOD DID IT NOT EVOLUTION!!!!.. and of course there's absolutely no evidence for that.. and there is PLENTY of DNA EVIDENCE for evolution...

Evolution doesn't dispute the existence of god, it only acknowledges that all living organisms are related, and that simple changes can happen over as little as a couple generations, depending on the size of the population...

if something was well-populated, then it obviously was already plastic to the environment, if something is SMALL in population, then a tiny genetic replication failure could make or break that species, so if it survived, then it was lucky enough to have a genetic change that favored it, if not, it joined the 99.9% of organisms that went extinct..

Really simple concept...

Where everything came from doesn't make a bit of difference when it comes to what we've observed SINCE life started...
We can agree or disagree about where life came from, there really is no disagreement when it comes to the diversity of life..'

And just to say "HAHAHAHAHAH YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT STARTED LIFE, SO MY POSITION IS RIGHT" does not do anything towards proving your position is right...

Just saying "since we can't think of another possibility, means that mine is right by default" isn't evidence... that is called "The Argument From Ignorance" if you wanna look it up, it is basically saying that it's a logical fallacy to claim that since nobody knows, that some argument is correct by default..

Ignorance is defined by the state of not knowing something

If nobody knows what came before the big bang, which nobody does... to just squeeze something in there and call it right just because nobody else can prove theirs right, that is the argument from ignorance, since nobody knows then i'm right

Basically it's like waiting for a war to end and since you hid from the battle and you were still alive at the end, that means your belief is right..  

Your belief still needs to go through the battle of being proven to be true, without evidence it loses the battle as well

NOBODY knows what happened before the big-bang.... A bronze aged book that says IT WAS THIS doesn't make it any more convincing than if they would've said MAYBE IT WAS THIS... They are indistinguishable from eachother, people declared things all the time because they wanted to be the king of a 10-man village.. Anyone who claims to have the answers that nobody else could think of is a GENIUS in that time... when EVERYBODY has smart answers, a genius has to prove himself..

Back then the standards were super low... Anybody could claim anything, they could pretend to cut their thumb off with something that criss angel would be laughed at for, and back then they would've been worshiped...

Those are the people you are relying on for your TRUTHS, and you are ignoring the ones who actually have DNA evidence...

Your argument IN ENTIRETY, is that those people who didn't understand GRAVITY or GERMS, should overrule the people who DO understand gravity, and people who understand calculus and physics...

That is why religious people are laughed out of science labs... To say that JESUS overrules someone who can build a bomb that pulls energy from Atoms......  It's really an argument that is 100% flawed, there is really no dumber argument out there than that... A 4-year old could have chocolate all over his face and his hands behind his back denying that he ate the last cookie, and his argument would is more likely to be true than the outrageous beliefs that are formed from that ancient text...

The problem is that you require 100% evidence to acknowledge evolution, which is all out in the open and right in front of you, specific and guaranteed... But you require NO EVIDENCE for your belief... So what do you require from your belief?  Only that it makes you comfortable... and somehow MORE COMFORT = MORE TRUE...

And to think the people that think the most like chimps are the ones who deny our heritage...

Morals

So I've noticed that lots of people say that we wouldn't have any morals if it wasn't for an authoritarian dictator in the sky..

That we wouldn't know right from wrong without this being telling us.  We would all be running around massacring and raping people.

First of all, how do you know he's the good guy? The christian god drowned all his kids because some people liked buttsex.  The only people he didn't drown were the ones he considered "righteous", who are the same people who whored their pre-teen daughters out to a village full of people to gangbang almost to the point of death, just to protect a couple drifters.  Those are the RIGHTEOUS?  That's what this guy is preaching?  The christian god says you are allowed to own and beat your slaves as long as they don't die in 2-3 days from the beating. He says rape victims are property, and they should be given to the rapist in marriage.

If you think these things are IMMORAL, then you have just exercised your OWN MORALITY which conflicts with GOD'S MORALITY, meaning you didn't get that "moral ability" from him.

If you think these things are MORAL, then you are sick and twisted, and I would even go as far as saying that you shouldn't be allowed around children.

If god is why we have morals, then how do we know if he's the good guy? Maybe it's the other guy? Maybe it's the guy sitting there silent, not trying to force anything on anyone, not telling people who they can and can't have sex with, not telling people to drown their children because they're possessed, not telling people that LIFE is worthless because there is an eternity of paradise afterwards.  It sounds like this GOD fellow is trying super hard to convince you that having fun is going to send you to some shitty ass place, while the other isn't saying a word.. Maybe he's just sitting there shaking his head, like.. Really?

I know god is the right one because God told me so!  Wouldn't the bad guy say that too?  I know god is the right one because he CAN'T LIE!  Couldn't a liar claim to not be able to lie too?

When it comes down to it, people are making a MORAL JUDGMENT when they say that God is the moral one, and satan is the immoral one.  They are saying that GOD seems to be the honest one, because he says he's the honest one, and that's all the convincing i need!

Creation..

I noticed people just invent an idea and define it as something that can create a universe, and then say "there's a universe, so that proves it's true!"

I can say that there was a peanutbutter-creating leprechaun, and since peanutbutter exists, it must be true!

I think it's amazing how scientists of the past, regardless of their faiths, performed experiments and devised models against the will of the religionists, discovered that parts of the world that were credited to gods or angels were, in fact, simply explained by mathematics and other forces (such as gravitational pull).  Then the creationists who were opposed to that scientist doing studies change their mind and take credit for it, even though it's one less gap for their god to fit in..  Then that scientist tries to figure out more, and since he can't yet, he gives the rest to GOD..

Years later, someone else comes along and figures out the answers that that last scientist couldn't figure out, proving that it wasn't god just because he couldn't understand it, and the stuff that he doesn't understand, he now credits god for..

And that happens over and over and over, scientists figure something out and when stuff gets too hard, they give credit to god for the rest out of sheer laziness.  The ULTIMATE Argument From Ignorance..  The ultimate display of arrogance..  Well I don't really know the answer, but wait yea i do! it was god! HA! And then they find out it's not... :D

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