Reply to Spinoza Comment 2
Well i am speaking of the blacks in the United states, as in most other countries they do no do the "my nigga" thing, and yes most blacks know some black history, i did not say they were scholars in black history merely know about black history, i do not believe you nor i are scholars yet we know about it, and the majorite of blacks do not use such idiotic terms as referring to each other as "nigga" this is usually teens and 20s. You have seen many, but surely you have not seen the majority of blacks. But i am merely speaking in the US, blacks know key figured in black history they may not know the minor players who have done amazing things.
You have yet to see progress in the black community, that shows me right there you are not looking, in communites are cleaner then that have been in 20 or so years, you have more blacks going to college now then you did 30 or so years ago, while the family structure, or the importance of family is worst then it was, in general blacks are doing much better as a whole then they were even since the 80s.
Not educate every citizen, every child, even non citizen children may go to school, while you may agree with this, i think that is one thing that makes this country great, education for all, not being bothered by citizenship, and tere is no general system for all, it is based on the makeup and background of the students, the experience of teachers, the files are not just thrown together for broad stroking, if it was that eimple every student would fail. all the papers say is what students must do per semester, to be able to pass to the next grade, each teacher has their own style and methods of teaching, and you have some teachers who go above and beyond their teaching duties to help students, so you can not down the whole system, there is no money to pay for better teachers and so the students suffer. that is the reality of life. you can not fault an overtaxed system for the flaws of our government.
While the educational system is not the best, it is not the worst, american is the third largest country in the world, and education is second to capitalistic ideals, While i am not disgusted with the education system, i am more so disgusted with the government who do not think education is important enough to raise the fund given to the educational system per year. Do not blame a system when the entity that governs that system thinks pushing money into foreign affairs then the education system of it citizens.
"I believe that School today is more about whether you get it, whether you can sit down, shut up, and follow the crowd. Whether you are organized and whether your teacher likes you."
Must disagree, but where before where the teachers could afford time with smaller classes to give personal attention to each student, with more then double the amount of students they can not give personal attention to each student, and as far as teacher student relations.
"you are supposed to respect and listen to your teacher on the grounds that they....are teachers."
i dont know where you from but in my old school, if the teacher was "nice" and not from the neighborhood they would not get any respect, the teacher should show they deserve respect, while i know it should be the other way around, we are speaking of urban areas, respect is not just given it is earned
As for your part two you said this country, so i gave you a basic history of the educational system in the general of this country, of course blacks in education of this country is much worst. but i am sure you knew that.
The purpose of education, contrary to your idea of it is to make useful members of society, people with bette education may get better jobs, goals are usually higher, then those who drop out.
"People who want to educate are least capable of it."
You can not generalize all teachers because of a financial slump in which many teachers are not qualified, the reality of it is, many teachers will tell you they dont do it for the money, and that is true, they do it so that they can help kids, so do not down grade all teachers, they are people like you, and i, they have expenses, problems, just being a teacher people expect them to be perfect that is a moronic ideal.
"Nobody with an IQ under 200 can be allowed to teach anything."
This spinoza i must say is the most idiotic thing you have said so far, so your ideal is that all teachers must be above genius level to teach. you, i and about 90 percent of this planet would not fit, one does not have to be a genius to make a difference, a Math Scholar, which usually have an average IQ of 140-160 would not even fit your criteria of fit to teach students, so i must ask, if you only want people with IQs over 200, which the the highest IQ recorded in history was only 210, ... is your idea is to not teach any child cause a teacher does not fit your above 200 IQ.. this is a real question i want you to answer man.
"Once a child manifests capabilities beyond the teacher, such as telekinesis or teleportation, he shall teach it to the others."
please put down the science fiction novel and come back to reality for a change....
but seriously man, the majority of students are not smarter then EXPERIENCED teachers who have spent years nurturing their craft, but many of the new teachers are in most cases still in college and are usually teaching assistants but such is what happen when the government does not think education is not important enough to pour money into the school system, which i do hope they do in the near future, the intellectual capability of most people has decreased profoundly since education has become secondary to business profits and other things the country put their money in.
Reply to Spinoza Comment 1
:the educational system and the black:
You can not mass generalize all blacks for what a minority of a group does, why yes many blacks typically in urban areas do not have a sense of black history, you can not mass group them, the fact of matter, the majority of black adults for the most part are well aware of such history.
Response to your Lesson 1That i must disagree with, for the fact of matter is what is being taught in school now was not being taught in schools 20 or 30 years ago when most black parents went to school, so many parents will not be able to keep up, in any subject. The Math is different [such as algebra, which today no student can get through math without it was only introduced in american schools in the later 80s early 90s when it became mandatory in most schools in america], history lessons different, science is very different so it is up to the school system to educate the kids, the problem with such is with a shortage of qualified teachers the students are not being properly taught.
While i will give you parents SHOULD push their kids to learn more when at home versus allowing them so much tv and play time, most parents do not understand what is being taught in school cause itw as not taught when they went to school, and the majority of parents in urban neighborhoods never went on to colleges, and many do not finish the high school level, so you can not expect them to be the ones educating their kids when they themselves, well the majority of them do not understand the work them selves, so i do think it is up to the schools not the parents to educate kids, the kids also should have a want to learn and be no stranger and should be willing to want to learn on their own outside of schools, but most of course do not..
Response to your lesson 2Once again i must disagree with you on the history of "our schools" while i do not know your educational on the history of the american school system, your "get as many childrend in one room as possible and supervised by an adult that is paid as little as possible" i shall address
The American school system since its early days when settling to this had the notion of simply linking ages together, such as it was age ... to ... were here, and so forth, but as it progressed and population grew, thus our study grew they understand grouping like that disadvantaged the older kids who could do more then their younger peers thus the notion of simply places students with one to two year age differences yet still being taught, of course for the most part school was mostly men at first, yet became boys and girls, any way you must take into account then the population was maybe at a most a million for the whole country so it was not being worried about the number of students because there were not that many the average class at the time had about 10-15 MAX students
Well todays school by law is "suppose" to have 15-20 students per teacher, but there is one issue, there is not enough teachers to cover the millions of students if we were to simply allow them 20 per class, and no room as well if i must add, so while it is not the school system to push as many as possible, it is the law that students of a certain age must go to school, and when there is noot enough teachers you have only two options
>]Either tell a group of students you can not go to school because there is not enough teachers
>>]Or place more kids then usual in classes/increase the ratio of student:teacher and hope for the best from 20:1 to what is now in many cases 30-35:1, while this leaves the teachers focusing on more, not getting as much done, the kids still get educated, so it is either this or do not allow the kids to go to school which would not benefit them at all.
and as far as running the classes with as little resources as possible, i take it you are referring to public schools.
Well for the most part, many private schools can get what they want cause their money does not come from the state, it comes from the parents that pay for their students to attend and so are not limited to such scruitiny when making purchases as public schools
The public school system, is paid for and governed by the state, who not only has that school but hundreds and in some cases thousands of schools and programs they must pay for, so it is not matter of purposely giving the students less, there is not enough money to afford such things as new text books per year, new comps per year cause there is no money in the budget, so its not a matter of doing with less, it is trying to utilize what you have to get by, it is not as if they have an unlimited supply of money to get what they want, as it has been said many times, the great thing and burden of capitalism is greed. So you can not fault the school system for what the country/citizens refuse to do which is give more money to schools, which would raise taxes and a bunch of other things.
Okay i have replied to each of your lessons and shall now continue on with the rest.
I do not speak much since when offline i am usually doing one of three things, having sex, doing sessions or having meetings with those of my former life, where as talking may be a must but only at certain times.
"How one uses swear words in private is entirely up to him/her but when one is around others then one should show a little respect and this is logical"
And this is logical, while it has nothing to do with being logical i do not get where you get that from, unless you meant being courtesy, which would of fit more then logical in your statement. judging from the rest of the sentence courteous is it seems what you meant, because history has shown us many times that being logical and courtesy usually hasnt anything to do with one another.
As a child my father family were more intellectual so they provided many books, and thanks to school which allowed me much more learned them home may have allowed, school can be a great place is kids utilize it, especially the libraries.
Okay i do believe i have responded to each of your points
