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The proposition was recently put forth by Tom and Jami that fakes are a form of deceit.

There is no question about it. Is there an injury in fact? For example there are several pay sites that charge around $10.00 or more per month that have adult profiles and there are fakes on there - viz., a woman using for example stills from an Andrew Blake video and saying she's a professional model. Well you see so many of these that after a while you are led to go from a free account to a pay account which will allow you to see their profile and contact them In order to have a law-suit, you'd have to prove that the site was doing the bogus profiles as a come on or was grotesquely negligent in allowing the fakery to persist because they're benefiting from it.

Well these are questions of fact; but individuals could not be held liable for publishing fake accounts unless they were using the service to collect money under fraudulent pretence. But if you stop and think about it a site could do something like that to attract guys. Bars do it by having pretty girls hang out for free drinks &c. Maybe BJ is doing it or allowing it to persist for similar reasons. So the motives are the same and are wrong.

I believe that a large part of the problem is the failure to address the elements of the deception and it's purpose. Many if not most guys come on line to masturbate to girls images and hope for interaction. I do. Web cams are the best example; yet it seldom if ever actually happens unless you pay for it and the interaction there is also easy to fake. A lot of times a guy could be jerking off to a video and think it's a live girl interacting with him. I'd be willing to bet it happens frequently because sometimes the videos fool me or else it's so difficult to find someone to share an orgasm with that we pretend. I do that too.

So I enjoy stroking my cock, admit it and see nothing wrong with it but I don't have time for deception or being led down a blind alley. Putting all of these factors together I think it's mostly women or underage girls doing this rather than Trannys or Over the Hill Queens because on these same said sites straight men openly interact with Gay men, Trannys, bisexuals like myself for the purposes of masturbation or exhibitionism (just like to show).

It's no big deal; also a lot of women that are ugly and/or fat are open about it and just do their thing. Sometimes they're way more fun than a beautiful stuck up woman that are like that many times to hide their insecurity or shyness. But the good looking women are rare, but do occur every now and then and they ought to do this more because there's nothing wrong with it.

When i originally posted this most of my time was spent dancing and this is still one of the only ways I have to socialize. There are women in the same situation that would probably be better off resorting to this than having sex with someone they don’t really like.

Masturbating alone or repressing yourself until you go neurotic? But of more women would do this for free it would squeeze and crowd out the fakes and the blind demand for them by guys that aren't being satisfied by their wives, are sick of having to buy sex or are in the same situation as me.

Society does nothing to alleviate this problem because Conservatives use it in their war against humanity, nudity and free orgasms. Imposing outworn social morals only makes the whole thing worse So for me, looks aren’t important. If a person is intelligent, polite, has taste and wants to get off and it doesn’t matter to me whether a man wants to watch but I do prefer women. But in any event they're going to know who I am.

People that resort to pix alone obviously don’t realize how these factors affect others reaction. Aside from indicating to me that they are insecure and immature it also suggests that they are lacking the sort of charm necessary to promote a positive interaction or what I need to take me over the edge. So in essence all they're doing is presenting a picture and saying hey look at this. Well yes that's very nice but there's no interaction. It seldome does anything for me and the exceptions are rare.

What do you want? At this point I'm perhaps not experienced enough to know the ins and outs of two things which are subjective and thus I can only suspect (1) I know that some people say they don’t like to cam or trade pix they want skin on skin sex, let's hook up &c. Well in my book it would be an injury in fact if they showed one thing and then you show up and they're something else and (2) some good looking women are sometimes dull shallow and superficial beings. So what in the hell are either of these doing on line and not wanting to show who they really are? I suspect that they're probably looking to con guys into a 'give me some money' ploy. I was taken like that before.

What it all comes down to is guys being led on by a deception. Try it out sometime: almost all of the girls with gorgeous pix have no personality or else act like well maybe if you really grovel; but nothing ever happens. So again, why are they on line? One possibility is they might think that this is an innocent means for garnering attention but it isn’t because at the very least they are wasting some guys time with on a deception. So maybe it's partly the guy's fault too. I mean surely, he can learn what I have if he has the time but that is a big if. Time in almost all regards is fungible.

In a similar sense, there is the bitch factor. A girl friend asked me about this guy that only calls her when he wants sex and I told her if you know him that well then you have to be reciprocal because sometimes guys call a girl and get rejected, which is unpleasant, girls do the we got what we wanted routine now too So that factor works in here also - the gorgeous babe is kind of a bitch, doesn’t have time &c so the guy figures oooooo I better play it cool and ends up wasting away his time on a deception.

So no matter which way you cut it fakes are indeed a deception. There is nothing innocent about it at all; and if these people are exposed and this explanation is presented to them then they ought to immediately realize what's wrong with what they're doing. So I agree that they ought to be exposed

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