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       I wonder why most adults don't think they should be hit for doing something wrong? Wouldn't it be cool if you showed up for work late and the brought the cane out? Or maybe they just start shocking people for speeding.  People know they ain't supposed to speed, so it seems like it would be a good idea. It might save some people some money atleast. Maybe do it for the repeat offenders, because the fines just aren't enough to keep them from doing it again.   How about we vote to see what kind of capital punishments can be imposed on ust for committing the simplest transgressions?  It seems like buisnesses ought to be able to "discipline" their employees with capitol punishment when they do something wrong, You are Their employees. What right is it of other people to tell them how to treat their employees? You wanted to work for them, you can quit if you want.  You chose to be the companyie's emplyees. That being said, I'm not certain, but if buisnesses instituted a policy of capitol punishment for punishment when their employee's fucked up somehow, I think there would be legal issues.  There's these weird laws out there that say it's not ok to do that to people, sometimes people can even get in trouble for mutual combat, if it gets out of line.
( incase you didn't realize it, most of the above was meant to be sarcastic. )
                   The fucked up thing about this, is the exception to these laws. It's ok to hit children. " As long as it's for discipline, and reasonable. "  I don't think it's ever reasonable. Children rarely choose their caregivers. And even more rarely choose to be with caregivers that hit them, when they have a choice.  Why is it that we can subject children to this kind of treatment, but not adults?  " Hazing  " is now against the rules in the Army. These are adults, tough adults that should be able to handle that kind of " discipline ". It's still against the rules. People think its wrong to submitt adults, even tought adults to that kind of treatment, but it's ok to subject children to it??  Even in the Army, the disciplinary action ( according to ar's and such ) had to do with the transgression.  It has to relate to what happened in some way.  If your soldier does something wrong, and you hit them in any way, even if you simply swatted their ass with your hand, You'd be fucked.
                        I'm not saying people shouldn't discipline their children. There are many other ways to teach your children right from wrong without hitting them. Later on, you might tell your kids like, " Hitting poeple isn't the way to solve your problems. " Well you obviously don't fucking believe that do you?  "   or " Two wrongs don't make a right. "  There again, you are sending a conflicting message.  Has anyone ever been smacked and then be told " Be nice ! " What the fuck is that? Maybe they feel it's nice to hit people.  Other ways to discipline that are atleast slightly more productive- natural consequences. If a child throws their toy and it breaks, well, the child eventaully learns not to throw toys.  Or maybe use natural consequences, they throw their toy, so you take it away for a while, and talk to them about how they should be carefull with their toys, and they will get it back when you are convinced they understand how to treat things.  Even military style, exersize discipline is more productive than spanking or any other type of hitting discipline. Have them do so many pushups, or run around the house 5 times, do a bucnh of jumping jacks, sit like a chair against the wall, whatever creative ( but obviously safe ) exersise, enough times that they aren't too thrilled about doing.. That is still more productive than spanking, because the exersise is good for them.  And they will know not to do that same thing again, because if they do they will have to do something unpleasant. Or even make them mow the lawn, or clean the house, or barn, or whatever.  There are a whole bunch of different ways of desciplining than the use of hitting, and unproductive pain.  It's not only unproductive, but can cause problems later on.  It has a tendency to make children aggressive following your example in the future by solving their problems with violence. It seriously affects self esteme, ( unquanitateive too high self esteeme might be bad, but it doesn't mean you should keep it low by using hitting as discipline. )
   " It's best not to spare the rod and spoil the child. " or something like that, blah blah blah. Think of it as taling about discipline. NOT capital punishment. As I said, you should discipline your children, just not with a rod.  Discipline is teaching, and there are far better ways to teach than with fear, and violence.

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