Well this one is kinda long so please read
its not often i post a bulletin so when i do post one i assure you that it is rather important to me
as this is...
i ask you to read it in its entirety and i also encourage you to comment i love all the feedback i recieve on this site
weather it good or bad i would like to hear all your thoughts about this maybe someone can elighten me as to why...
this is a "fu-mail" sent to scrapper i have edited nothing in this it is a direct copy and paste the header is included
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:03:10 -0700
From: <spiffycool@fubar.com> Size: 4 KB
To: scrapper@fubar.com Reply-To: <spiffycool@fubar.com>
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ok i may not be the most observant person on fubar.. but i am rather
curious about the ethics on a place where i spend my time and money.
I've been around for a long time and i must say that something is going
horribly wrong here
1st those of use who pay vip's we pay to
support fubar and help keep it ad free i know there is a lot of us, so
they should manage to pay costs out of that just fine. If thats not
enough we also help with the amount of daily sticky's and happy hours
there is plenty of ways to spend money on this site..
2nd
tickers thats a wonderful idea but here we see again ad's.... then on
the comments we leave that has html enabled.. agian you see all kinds
of links to other sites
3rd now we have a sponsor
(Bullz-eye.com) first off i have some beef with this site for several
reasons the main one and most important is there affiliation with
Bargin Buddy in the top ten list of spy ware over several studies
around the world
I understand the basic concept of
the original "lc" but along with the name changes i have also noticed
its policy changing.if your gonna sell out to the highest bidder make
it known! Dont lead us around like your personal bargining chips to
online telemarketers
Finally.. Update the reasoning behind
what you get when you buy a Vic ermm.... Vip and clarify the rules on
cheating and what is considered cheating you think we dont read the
fubar bible but what im asking is do the people that wrote it still
belong here?
trying to behave,
-Baby Satan
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Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 08:17:30 -0700
From: <scrapper@fubar.com> Size: 2 KB
To: spiffycool@fubar.com Reply-To: <scrapper@fubar.com>
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Thanks for the feedback
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wow seems to me like this is a brush off notice basicly saying haha thats all you can do about it is complain...
so i waited a while and seen all the bulletins about how people didnt like the sponcor too much so i knew i wasnt alone
and then after about a few days i decided to try a different apporach i copied the image and saved it to my pictures and made it my default
then i proceeded to walk into the support lounge and just hung out for a min waiting for some bouncer to mark it as nsfw (as i knew they would because of the content of it ) shortly after this as i knew it would i got a letter shop@fubar.com (marked nsfw) and i got a bouncer in my shoutbox
this is a edited version of this shoutbox the only thing changed in this is the bouncers name to hold respect to this bouncer so the name has been changed altho the content has not
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annonomous bouncer: You're doing a test aren't you? To see if this pic gets marked nsfw
Baby Satan: i think if they expect us to follow a certian criteria then so should the people who back it they dont let the bouncers have that kinda picture up nor does any of the fu-family
Baby Satan: thought this would be the easyest way to get my point accross
Annonomous Bouncer: how did you have the nsfw mark removed?
Baby Satan: i did?
Annonomous Bouncer: yes..that is not the same pic that was up earlier was it? unless you reuploaded it
Baby Satan: no i cropped out the website and uploaded figured thats why it gopt flagged last time
Annonomous Bouncer:: no..it's sexual in nature as a default it's not cool
Baby Satan: then why is it on my homepage if i cant use it as a defult isnt that a lil hypocritical ?
Baby Satan: i not tring to be disrespectful or anything im just tring to make a point...
Baby Satan: i mean arnt i paying a vip to help keep the site ad-free?
Annonomous Bouncer: i have nothing to do with what admin allows sponsors to post..however, i do have a say and a job to do when it is a member default..i'm sorry, that's the way it is...don't blame me for doing my job
Annonomous Bouncer: again...is that something that i as a volunteer bouncer on site has control over? the answer is no
Baby Satan: ohh i dont blame you i compleately understand you do what you have to do i would expect nothing less
Annonomous Bouncer: admin sets guidelines...i follow them
Baby Satan: i would however appreate it if you would copy and paste this to him or tell him what is going on about this because i know you dont have the power to change it but i also dont feel like the problem is resolved
Annonomous Bouncer: this is not the way to prove a point...the way to find things out is to ask the proper people about it..they do answer
Baby Satan: and how long of a time you think it woulda took for me to get a responce ?
Annonomous Bouncer: if you have a problem with the site hon...you are quite capable of writing and expressing your concerns as a member...i shall screencap this shout though and pass along a suggestion as well
Baby Satan: ohh and by the way i did say something and my response was "thanks for the feedback" (3 days ago) ***
Annonomous Bouncer: to get an answer from admin? i'm not sure actually...i'm not admin..but i would imagine if approached properly within a few days..they're pretty busy at the moment with the lounges coming out
Annonomous Bouncer: proper channels..proper channels and a proper approach...they are only human as well
Baby Satan: i would be happy to show you the mail i sent to scrapper along with the response if your curious about it
Annonomous Bouncer: scrapper is admin...again..i am not..so i can't do anything about that..he is my boss
Annonomous Bouncer: i don't know what else to tell you ..sorry...i knew however what you were doing when i saw you upload that pic
Baby Satan: i know, and i understand i know exactly what you saying but you have to understand when you want things to change sometimes taking it to the proper channel is only a way of keeping your grip hush hush and thats what it feels like
Annonomous Bouncer i know that, but my position remains the same...i am a site bouncer...i don't make the guidelines...i follow them and make sure the members do as well....i know you understand that from my position too
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ok well it seems to me that i alone have no control so i earge you all to either ask bouncers to allow us to to as he allows his site sponsor to do (seeing how we all support the site with out money and numbers) or ask him to change the rules to allow us to do as we want as im sure he allows the sponsors too
i encourage you to be respectful because no madder the case (right or wrong) he does have control of the site and will not think twice about removing your ability to particapate here (trust me) so with this knowadge do not take this up with the bouncers they dont have any control over this it is a PURELY UNDER ADMIN CONTROL! dont shout his box please just sent a mail and ask him to get his sponsor to follow the rules of the site or adjust the rules so we can all play the same game
Repost this Sticky it Pass the Word
a single solder cant win a war only an army can fight the fight that needs to be done
-Baby Satan