This was going to be posted yesterday, but comp crashed...so here goes.
So, I am going to the church of logic and reasoning, while there I plan to meet other like minded individuals.
I am bored this is a quick blog that a friend said to post because we are bored :P
In Atheist News, is Atheism the new Christian Extremism?
Well it is according to one fellow, whom in the mumms, called the guy an Atheist Idiot, and then said even though I know it's Dana
Wait... What.. Wait, let us break this apart.
Atheist Idiot... yea you're right, not just accepting the lack of proof makes us idiots.. but okay
"Even though it is Dana".. WAIT.. Dana, you mean that die hard christian who thinks Atheist will all burn in hell... so please fellow inform us how are Atheist like Dana.
To say an Atheist is like Dana, is to say I support Jews so much I backed hitler hm wait... yup it is just like that
But I digress....
Atheist & Politics
"Bush: No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
Let us evaluate this, yes I know that the Bush family were not known for their intelligence but...
"I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens"
Hm, citizens based on beliefs, or lack there of.. yup pretty sure that is a constitutional violation, from a party who claims to hold the constitution so near and dear.
"nor should they be considered patriots"
Why is that? Can only Judeo-Christians love their country? .. was unaware that ones beliefs determined their loyalty.
"This is one nation under God."
Here is where it gets fun.
Well No, we are not nor have we ever been one nation under god.
Atheist support Christianity?
I will bring up the original Pledge of allegiance written by Christian Minister Francis Bellamy
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. "
As an Atheist, we do support or rather have no problem with Bellamy's original written oath of allegiance for it did not differentiate between races, classes or beliefs, it incorporated all Americans.
You cannot have it both ways, either we are one body, one nation, indivisible, or you place your god in the way and then start separating people by whether or not they believe what you believe.
When speaking of today's American as it pertains to today and their being against Atheist taking the American government to get the original pledge put back and god also taken off the money...
When speaking of this I had to bring up Obama, you see it fox news, conservatives stations about the evil socialism, that it is all bad and that Obama wants this nation to be a socialist nation, and always comparing him to Karl Marx, a brilliant man with great socialist views. I am a proud Socialist, I am a proud humanist and globalist, I have no need for your silly chauvinistic style of patriotism nor do I have any use for your simple minded classism.
Well getting back to the point, with conservative Americans speaking so against socialism and so FOR the pledge of Allegiance, it is clear that they know nothing about Francis Bellamy, because if they ever took the time to read up on Bellamy they will know he wrote several books that spoke of his want, and longing for a socialist utopia, where the people were taken care of by those in power, and where classes and such did not matter. Bellamy thought that as a Christian, socialism was the only true political system because it was "christ like" in the not separating by classes and wealth but that all the people were one...
Oh noes conservatives, you love a saying written by a well known socialist, who had no use for your capitalistic greed...poor you, okay conservative you may start demonizing the socialist now... I should not be too surprised since most Americans when asked to describe Socialism describe Fascism, and when asked what are the components of ONLY socialism, they describe communism..
I get asked this quite often when I say that I am an Atheist and have been one since the age of seven. To be quite honest, the simplest answer I can answer people with is “I am an atheist because I have read religious text” that pretty much sums it all up. I have read their bibles, koran, jewish books, pagan, Wiccan and things of that nature and after reading them, I could not force myself to believe such rehashed B.S. But hey if it works for you, great, as they say, do you but I do not have this thing of faith.
Do know that Atheist are not "Anti-God" that is rather moronic, you cannot be against something you do not believe exist. You can be against the dogmatic belief that places such high value in the being, but it is rather funny, on the retarded type of entertainment when I hear Atheist claim to hate god. So you hate what you do not believe exist... idiotic at best.
I was once asked by a theist do I hate god.
I said of course not, to hate something you must first acknowledge its existence, and if I acknowledged your gods existence long enough to hate it then how could I ever claim to be an Atheist?
The theists I believe have Atheist misunderstood, as a general concept Atheism is just the absence of faith. Pass that anything that the individual person likes or dislikes is the doing of that individual, not their beliefs or disbeliefs in anything.
Thanks to a Christian website I Shall post several things that they say and attempt to refute them with real life statistics and facts
The following were quotes taken from http://www.tencommandments.org/heathens2.html, just ONE PAGE of six of the big Atheist conspiracy. You may go to the page and see that of the quoted words I have changed none
“ATHEISTS HATE THE TRUE GOD, NOT THE FALSE ONES”
According to this person we “hate god” simply because we believe God to be a man made or rather god is a thought up thing of man and not real. This means that Atheist hate god, even though this person goes on to demonizing other faiths that do not agree with his Jesus or god, so does that mean he hates them because he believe their faith is a “false faith” and made up?
No sir. Atheists believe in no gods, so therefore we cannot hate nor love false or any other types of gods. Because in the recognizing of any god, be it monotheist or polytheistic, that is a religion, which is not Atheism.
And before I get those usual comments saying Atheism is a religion; look up the definition of religion, to belief in some type of supernatural or higher power. Atheist, have no such beliefs in any type of higher powers.
“ATHEISTS CREATE CRIMINAL SOCIETIES”
While I understand that as a theist you believe your god is the center of morality but do tell us this.
If Atheist create such criminal societies then why are we the minority in all of your criminal institutions? What I mean is, Atheist make up .02% of your prison system, for a people who are so “god fearing’ and things of that nature, you would think the majority would be Atheist.
Let us also look at scientific sociology studies, according to one study, when you have a higher percentage of Atheist, you have a lower percentage of crime, when you have a higher percentage of Atheist you have a higher average IQ, when you have a lower percentage of Atheist, hate crimes nearly triple what they were. While this sociology study done in the later 90’s to early 2005 shows that Atheist actually stabilize societies of their chaotic theistic intentions.
“PROOF ATHEISTS DELIBERATELY REJECT GOD”
You actually need proof that we reject the idea of god? … all you had to do is ask an Atheist. Rejecting the idea of something does not mean we hate it… your arguments are starting to become redundant.
“Guess Who The Computer Hackers Are”
This one just made me laugh, I mean he thinks that Atheist are behind all computer hacking codes, I mean REALLY your arguments started moronic yet sound, and now it falters more and more
“ATHEISTS PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF GOD BY THEIR OWN LABEL”
According to this person, the term “A-THEIST” proves gods existence because, his definition is that if you have “fidelity” you have a spouse and if you commit “infidelity” then you are going against what is already there. So basically be believes that “A” Theist is just going against what he knows to be true.
Sorry silly man, Atheism, or rather the thought of atheism is older than theism, we already know, thanks to fossils and things of that nature that early human or rather the original creatures we evolved from were very simple hunter gatherer types who did not have any faiths or in some of their ways and cave drawings did not show any belief in a higher power.
Theism or more accurately polytheisms, came for when they could not understand something. Such as raining, rainbows, the sun, the moon and things of that nature use to be, by early civilizations, after several evolutionary periods and increased intelligence, were thought to be the work of several gods and things of that nature. As time passed and we begin to understand these things more, we knew they were not a god per se and knew how they operated, this polytheistic belief in these things did not disappear, more so in stead of dozens of gods each being responsible for one or two things, you got an all powerful, all knowing god who controlled everything.
So if Atheism, a disbelief; predates religious teachings, how could they be proof of a god? Using that logic, Theism, a belief, is proof that there is no god. Since the original people did not have any beliefs.
“ARE YOU A DESCENDANT OF THE APES?”
He believes that evolution is a big Atheist conspiracy… I mean do I really have to even address this? We now have several fossilized remains showing a distinct evolutionary jump over the thousands of years from the original man, to the homo-sapiens that we have today. If you do not believe in evolution, I shall just assume that you refute logic and reasoning to go with you faith based ideals which by definition, lacks logic and reasoning.
“WOULD YOU FIGHT AND EVEN DIE FOR WHAT YOU DISAGREE WITH?
I'm sure you've noticed how the atheistic american constitution and its heathen amendments cause atheists and all other patriots to think and function in the society in ways that are contrary to common sense, even among those who attend universities and are so-called "educated".
All I have to say to this is, yea, a document whose only true purpose is to not be prejudice, to be the beacon of equal treatment for everyone under this nation, yea how heathen of them, how dare they want woman to be treated the same as man, ones race not to determine their social standing, how DARE these Atheist want that…..if you cannot understand the sarcasm, then I shan’t waste My time explaining.
Let knowledge be that truth, which portrays humanity, condemns malevolence, respect the differences in others while abandoning the hatred and misconceptions of the past.