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Subject: "Alfred E. Bush Fails Again!" First topic | Last topic Affrayer Sat Mar-31-07 06:39 AM Member since Mar 02nd 2007 133 posts Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this authorClick to view this author's profileClick to add this author to your buddy list "Alfred E. Bush Fails Again!" Huffington Post WASHINGTON — A Saudi terror suspect says U.S. interrogators tortured him for five years and he confessed to involvement in the bombing of the USS Cole just to satisfy them and "make the people happy," according to a Pentagon transcript of a military hearing at Guantanamo Bay. I guess Alfred E. Bush never realized that torture has it's own built in defense. I know, Alfred E. Bush claims that we've gotten valuable intel from torture but to date I haven't seen one example that shows this to be true. Probably because Al Qaeda uses splinter cells. And bribes have proven to be extremely expensive when compared to overall results. It's just another fine example of Alfred E. Bush's repeated failings. Something he does better than any other president in history... What he needs to do is redefine failure so it looks like victory. You know, exactly what they tried when the British announced they would be cutting and running. Alfred E. Bush said that was proof that his plan was succeeding...

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Huffington Post Wires The current Military Commissions Building at Guantanamo Bay U.S. Naval Base, Cuba, Dec. 4, 2006. Brought to Guantanamo over five years ago, Australian detainee David Hicks attended a hearing here Monday, March 26, the first suspect to face prosecution under revised military tribunals established after the U.S. Supreme Court last year found the Pentagon's system for trying Guantanamo detainees was unconstitutional. (AP Photo/Brennan Linsley) Guantanamo Detainee Makes Torture Claims LOLITA C. BALDOR | AP | March 30, 2007 08:30 PM EST Compare other versions » Compare with WASHINGTON — A Saudi terror suspect says U.S. interrogators tortured him for five years and he confessed to involvement in the bombing of the USS Cole just to satisfy them and "make the people happy," according to a Pentagon transcript of a military hearing at Guantanamo Bay. Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, a Saudi of Yemeni descent, is the second "high value" detainee to contend he was tortured while being held in secret CIA prisons prior to transfer to the detention site in Cuba last September. In a transcript released Friday by the Pentagon, he said he made up the stories linking him to the Cole attack, which left 17 U.S. sailors dead and nearly sank the $1 billion destroyer in Aden harbor in 2000. "From the time I was arrested five years ago, they have been torturing me. It happened during interviews. One time they tortured me one way, and another time they tortured me in a different way," al-Nashiri said, according to the transcript of a hearing at the Guantanamo detention center on March 14. "I just said those things to make the people happy. They were very happy when I told them those things." The hearing transcript does not include any details of the torture that al-Nashiri said took place. Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said any allegations would be investigated and that portions of the 36-page transcript were blacked out because of national security concerns. Those details can include interrogation techniques and information about confinement. Avi Cover, senior counsel at Human Rights First, said concealing such details hurts U.S. credibility. He said "revealing the allegations of abuse and examining them in a transparent and thorough investigation won't make America weaker _ it will make the U.S. stronger." Separately on Friday, an Australian detainee held for five years at Guantanamo Bay was found guilty of supporting terrorism, the first conviction at a U.S. war-crimes trial since World War II. David Hicks, a 31-year-old Muslim convert, had pleaded guilty to the charge Monday night. He was accused of aiding al-Qaida during the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan. He could face a prison sentence of up to seven years and is to be returned to Australia to serve it. As for al-Nashiri, he is one of 14 high-value detainees who were moved to Guantanamo in September from secret CIA prisons abroad. The military is conducting hearings for the 14 to determine if they are enemy combatants who can be held indefinitely and prosecuted for war crimes. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, also contended he was tortured by the CIA after his capture in 2003, according to a brief exchange during his Guantanamo hearing earlier this month. No other details were provided. In a confidential report that has not been publicly distributed, the International Committee of the Red Cross has said the 14 prisoners described abusive interrogation methods, according to officials familiar with the report. CIA spokesman Mark Mansfield wouldn't respond to al-Nashiri's allegations, but said Friday that the agency's interrogation program is conducted lawfully _ "with great care and close review, producing vital information that has helped disrupt plots and save lives." Soon after the capture of a key terror suspect in 2002, the CIA decided it should hold high-value captives for extended periods to extract information, using "enhanced interrogation techniques." Those widely reported practices include openhanded slapping, cold, sleep deprivation and _ perhaps most controversially _ waterboarding. In that technique, a detainee is made to believe he is drowning. "It's widely known that the CIA has abused prisoners _ agency personnel have admitted as much to journalists, and detainees who have been released or transferred to military custody have described some of the abuses," said John Sifton of Human Rights Watch in New York. "But now the military is acting as an accomplice after the fact." According to U.S. intelligence, al-Nashiri was tasked by al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden to attack the Cole, and also was al-Qaida's operations chief in the Arabian Peninsula until he was caught in 2002. In the transcript, al-Nashiri says he met with bin Laden many times and received as much as a half million dollars from the terror leader. The money, he said, was for personal expenses including for marriage and business deals. Al-Nashiri said he told interrogators that he used some of the money to buy explosives used to bomb the Cole, but in reality he said he gave the explosives to friends to help dig wells. He said he confessed to involvement in several other terror plots in order to get the torture to stop _ including the 2002 bombing of the French oil tanker Limburg, plans to bomb American ships in the Gulf, a plan to hijack a plane and crash it into a ship and that bin Laden had a nuclear bomb. In one instance, he said, he took money to buy a boat and develop a fishing business, and bin Laden later told him it could be used for a bombing. Al-Nashiri said he ended the project, and was not involved when bin Laden later used it "as a military tool." Speaking through a translator, al-Nashiri said he knew many of the people involved in attacks, including on the Cole, but said he is not a member of al-Qaida. Asked if he is an enemy combatant, al-Nashiri told the hearing that he does not consider Americans his enemies but he is one of thousands of people who believe the U.S. should leave the Gulf. The military also said Friday that in another hearing at Guantanamo Bay, on March 20, Mohammed Nazir Bin Lep, a Malaysian also known as Lillie, declined to attend. But in a written statement, he denied allegations against him, principally that he helped transfer funds for the 2003 bombing at a Jakarta hotel in which 12 were killed. "It is true I facilitated the movement of money ... but I did not know what it was going to be used for," said in the statement, which was read by his military representative. "I do not know anything about a hotel bombing." According to evidence presented at the hearing, Lillie traveled to Bangkok, Thailand, to help move $50,000 from al-Qaida to the militant Islamic group Jemaah Islamiya and that $30,000 of it was used for operational expenses to bomb the J.W. Marriott in Jakarta on Aug. 5, 2003. Hearings for nine of the 14 high-value detainees have been completed, and all the transcripts have been released. ___ Associated Press writer Pauline Jelinek contributed to this story. ___ On the Net: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Combatant_Tribunals.html
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